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I have to say that at first I was thinking "How can this woman stay so up beat and even sane with what she knows about every aspect of our lives being taken over by AI and NANO Tech and 5G!" Than we get to the end and to what I know is the only way we can keep our sanity, stay up beat and function till we make it to the end of this spiritual war. We fight by being LOVE every moment we can, focus on our connection to Source and keep on learning the TRUTH, facing it and spreading it when we can. Thank you for introducing me to this amazing woman and thank you for your Divine Service and Activism. Sharon

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Elana represents what we should all strive towards, truth while being true to ourselves!

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So beautifully said!

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Thank you so much Donna. I believe that these two women deserve all of the support we can give them. They are pioneers in the changes we will have to make in this world.

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I agree! I'm glad that Elana gave out the name of the Steiner bookstore, I will order from them.

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I don't think Elana is afraid of death. She's a follower of and somewhat of an expert of Rudolf Steiner and his teachings. She was affiliated with Clifford Carnicom who was one of the first whistle blowers of Morgellans disease and weather geo engineering control and chemtrails.

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Mrose, I'm so sorry for this. I keep telling substack this, but to no avail. Hav you tried a different browser? Any luck there?

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Reinette, much of this interview has been stopped and blocked, you know. I saved it for this evening to watch. Just now, as soon as Elena starts talking JFK it shuts down, and keeps shutting down. I wanted to tell you and Elena something odd that has occurred. Are you on the wran email list for EMF- damaged people? Sort of conductor for this group is Arthur Firstenberg, author of “Invisible Rainbow. “. Out of nowhere several weeks ago Arthur posts a long article to his followers about “chem trails”, which he proceeds to thoroughly debunk as “conspiracy”! And he proceeds to trash the name of Elana Freedland! I am still too astounded to react! I didn’t save the article so cannot forward it.

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That is horrifying to hear...... I can't understand why in the world Arthur would do this when the evidence, and I mean EVIDENCE, is overwhelming.

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I did send Arthur two emails expressing my shock that he is denying geo engineering. I was very polite. I did not get a reply. I also in a past email suggested kindly that a spiritual perspective may be helpful, didn’t get a response on that either. I often wonder if there is some mind control going on. Once again division among those seeking truth.

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Wow, no response on any of them. It's very troubling how divided the truth movement is. How can people deny the chemtrails at this point ? It is so obvious all the time. And the fact that the information from Haarp is well known, how can you deny that. But that is part of my point about the science community, some are stuck and will not accept that they might not be educated about the real truth. Same with drs that all their careers have been told safe and effective about vaccines and telling their patients too. Then suddenly having to relearn and realize that was a complete lie.

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In the beginning of covid he was on a live group conversation with Josh Del Sol and a bunch of others discussing 5G. At some point he got very mad and was ready to leave the conversation. I don't remember what it was about, mainly his very strong reaction as he called it a conspiracy theory and he wanted zero association with it. The science community has a tendency to get stuck in their belief and I am not sure he has been one that has been completely tuned into the whole globalist agenda. I had that feeling about him before covid. He was very liberal environmentalist minded and I was too. However, I knew what they were doing for a long time in many aspects of life so I questioned everything. He seemed very narrow minded in his focus. I could be wrong, but I ended up unfollowing him..Could your email still be in the trash, sometimes it is still there for a while?

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That was a fantastic interview. Really gives me encouragement to keep alerting my fellow humans to the truth even when they think I am nuts.

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More are coming to our side than ever.... I don't know of ANYONE who is on our side and then falls asleep again.

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Thank you for this interview Reinette, I just recently bought her book entitled Geoengineered Transhumanism and can't wait to dive into it. She is now the second person I have heard talk about the nanobots being used in the fires in CA, I have wondered how they were able to control them with such accurate precision! One day I watched as someone superimposed an agenda 21 map on top of an area that had been burned and it fit exactly, I was blown away! The areas being targeted are those where there is an over abundance of natural resources in the land and are marked as red on the agenda 21 maps. I believe the elites will begin to strip mine this land just as soon as they have everyone locked up in their smart cities. Meanwhile we will be told these are the areas where humans are forbidden to roam. Nothing about those fires for at least 3 years has struck me as anything close to being "normal". There was one statement she made that really caught my attention and that was "Even in death you won't be able to leave this behind". I so wish she had been willing to elaborate on this comment.

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Perhaps she means we reap what we sow... beyond this life. Perhaps there is no escaping this planet? And, those nano-bots in the fire.... I had not heard that. I have to look into this more! Because I went to Paradise after it burned. Nothing natural about it.

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Thank you both. Such a vital dialog that any 'legit politician'(an oxymoron?) should embrace. But as we've seen, the politicians are too easily bought and manipulated. The details re Climate Change as a primary tool of the deep state needs to be taught to our children and teens. Of course I'll always follow the money in terms of the schemes to create "elite order" around the globe. The central bank collapse is upon us, and this too is a controlled event designed to use FEAR to manipulate the populace. Follow da moolah: https://rikitikitavi.substack.com/p/eyes-wide-open-credit-suisse-update

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Yes, Elana, I agree with you about staying on the edge of things...you forego the big money and status, but it keeps you awake and aware. I also agree that a liberal arts education is the best. I see all these people with science degrees who completely fell for the covid thing. I studied 1984 in 1984 at university, and to me it was obvious from the beginning what was happening. Sigh. We need the world to wake up...to all of it.

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Thank you, Reinette, for having Elana on. I have her three books, and oy, it's A LOT of information. You are both warriors of Truth. Grateful to have you both on the planet at this time in our history.

I heard Elana very briefly mention fiber optics, but she didn't elaborate. Sounded like she was saying it's no good. Any thoughts? They're installing it in and around our little country town in NH, and everyone is so excited about it. I'm suspicious but don't know what to think. Thanks for another great convo!

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I have heard that fiber optics also emit radiation......

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I have been dragging my heels about signing up for it while everyone around me has jumped on the train. My gut keeps telling me that something is off. Free installation, they keep calling about installing it, etc. etc. I keep thinking that maybe there's a 5G connection. This morning I found this article: https://www.emfanalysis.com/fiber-optics-increasing-electrical-sensitivity/ and saw this:

"Consider that the high-speed fiber optic networks being installed in our communities will be used as the backbone for 5G wireless installations. Every cellular antenna on a light or utility pole needs a fiber connection to operate. As award-winning science journalist Blake Levitt points out in this article, fiber optic systems can be used as a Trojan horse for 5G installations in our communities."

Would love for anyone reading this to weigh in if you know anything. Thx!

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No surprise there. :(

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Elana is one of the best - thank you for the interview!

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This was a nice compact review of much here. Thanks, Renee. Jamie Lee also did that excellent document, the California Fires, which I have. An early Paradise video, number five, was so powerful that it was scrubbed in days. That's the one that he included "The Last Resort" on. I've subsequently performed it many times, as it is such a powerful statement.

I kept urging him at one point to make a compilation of all those videos, he did great work. Lost touch tho, do you know if that was done? I've told folks about the one with the embers moving along the ground at the feet of those running down the street. And then Gen Franks shows up and frankly states "we don't do body counts".

I was a hot fighter until then. That's when I turned cold. You know how dangerous it is , "when a woman goes cold". (Mary Gauthier song)

Her interview with Dark Jouranlist after that horrific Travis Scott affair was really intense. I think that's the one, for sure, where it seems to me she mentioned having worked with MKUltra

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So much that we don't know.... and the "body counts".... we NEVER got the real story on that. I had friends who had PTSD after working on the recovery. It sounded like a nightmare. I'm don't know if Jamie Lee did a compilation. I haven't followed him for a while. He's on my list to track down again.

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Nightmare, all right. And then Drumph, Brown, and Newsome show up for a photo op in their black Jesuit attire. Prould of their charred altar of human sacrifice. Bloody beasts from hell.

A couple of years ago I was freaking out with the Mothers of Invention...and was blown away hearing the lines, in "Who Are The Brain Police?" : What would you do if we let you go home? And the plastic was melted and so was the chrome.

And then again, What would you do if the people you knew were the plastic that melted and the chromium too?

Then I went and began listening to Firesign Theater's "Waiting for The Electrician or Someone Like HIm". In the first five minutes, the colonial conquerors introduce the native americans to their "new chief: Father Corona".

Some of us counted the bodies, with our hearts on fire. We won't forget.

I've been saying the same as Elana said here, for several years now. I came for knowledge, and that's what I CAN take with me when I go, and I intend to.

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Ah. Thanks for the info that she has a BA in "creative writing". That says a lot to me. I've known of her for years, heard her, and the last time, caught her mention of having worked with MKUltra. So....I'm gonna digest a bit of this additional piece, and see what you have to show us here.

Creative writing. Hmmm...novels? like the "novel" virus? words...shape shifters...

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Elana is also ghost writer..... so that would definitely involve some creative writing skills....

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Check out her SubRosa 4-part series - it's a "fictional" account of what happens to people in the MK-Ultra net. https://www.elanafreeland.com/subrosa

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Thanks for returning me to this series..maybe someday I can read it. I do recall reading the descriptions a year or so ago, and was intrigued.

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Wish my iPhone would play this... any tips? My first time on Substack.

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Jamila, try a browser that is not safari. Video playback is the bane of my existence on susbtack. Try again and let me know if this works. And if you continue to have problems, you can email me your email address and I'll send you the file..... Welcome to substack, btw.

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I did 26 Iboga rootbark journeys. An African spirit who called herself Mamma Africa told me about Tiny computers injected and in the air, water etc. in 2015 told me the central sun energy in the rootbark will kill them. Its a frequency war. The Ai is not bigger than the sun frequency. I believe her. Nature has all the answers.

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Spirit showed me that laughter can shatter a black cube, love can dematerialise a demon, so may we remember how sovereign and powerful we are.

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Yes, Nan! My immediate reaction was “mind control”! How did they get to him? — was my second thought!

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Reinette, incredibly important interview. Might you implement the option on Substack of an audio feed? This should allow a smooth experience. I am suffering right now through the video despite the incredibly broken feed.

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